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TIHKAL - Alexander Shulgin - 4-HO-DiPT



Type of Spiritual Experience


Smashed is not a spiritual experience.  It is smashed.

This is probably a vison 'mother cuddly imagery – removed from physical angles'.  Although it makes no sense

Question " Is this a religious experience? "

Answer "No, it's brain damage"

A description of the experience

TiKHAL – the continuation – Dr Alexander and Ann Shulgin

4-HO-DiPT with 20mg orally

….fifteen minutes, it starts and develops fast – very nice – some leg tremor.  Thirty minutes, I am already well over ++.  Speed of onset is incredible – I could not drive – I feel robbed of voluntary action.  Forty minutes, this could not get any deeper.  Fifty minutes, incredible orgasm.  Fifty five minutes, I struggle to put a name to it, just +++ smashed – with eyes closed very little – I am somewhat chilled – no visual, no sensory…one hour ten minutes, Rubenesque fancy – no sex but back to mother cuddly imagery – removed from physical angles.

One hour thirty minutes, go for two very significant pieces of wood for the fireplace – if all my actions are preprogrammed and I am following commands, then I have no free will – if the command is ‘to have free will’ then I obey.  Whom?  Who?

Why obey an undefined, unheard commander?

Still +++…… One hour forty minutes back to ++, still very much in the grips of lack of self determination.  I could function in the lab but following whose directions?  Is this finally God?  Is this a religious experience?  One hour fifty minutes, down to +.  This has to have been a religious awakening.  Two hours still a little zombie like, but largely down.  Two hours twenty minutes, I am still shaken to the roots by these realisations.  Three hours, completely together

The source of the experience

Shulgin, Alexander

Concepts, symbols and science items



Science Items

Activities and commonsteps



Taking drugs


Brain damage