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Saint Augustine - De Civitate Dei volume 5 – Describes a man who could go out of body and appear dead

Identifier

026167

Type of Spiritual Experience

Background

I apologise for the translation, Google Latin does its best, but the scanning in the original text we used appears to have errors

A description of the experience

As described in Illustrations Of The Influence Of The Mind Upon The Body In Health And Disease, Designed To Elucidate The Action Of The Imagination - Daniel Hack Tuke, M.D., M.R.C.P.,

PART III. THE WILL.
CHAPTER XIV. INFLUENCE OF THE WILL UPON SENSATION, THE VOLUNTARY AND INVOLUNTARY MUSCLES, AND THE ORGANIC FUNCTIONS.
SECTION III.— Influence of the Will upon the Involuntary-Muscles and the Organic Functions.

St. Augustine gives a case of voluntary trance in the "De Civitate Dei" (Opera, Edit. 15G9, vol. v, p. 796):
 

Jam illud multo incredibilius,

(piod plerique fratres memoria recentissima expert! sunt.

Presbyter fecit quidam nomine Pestitutus in paroccia Calamensis ecclesise,

qui quando ei placebat (rogabatur autcm ut hoc faceret ab eis qui rem mirabilem coram scire cupiebant),

ad imitatas quasi lamentantis cujus .

Libel homines voces, ita se auferebat a sensibus, et jacebat simillimus mortuo;

ut non solum vellicantes atque pungentes minime sentiret,

sed aliquando etiam igne ureretur admoto,

sine ullo doloris sensu nisi postmodum ex vulnere ;

non autem obnitendo,

sed non sentiendo non movere corpus,

 probabatur, quod tanquam in defuncto nullus inveniebatur anhelitus :

hominum tamen voces, si clarius loquerentur, tanquam de longinquo se audisse postea referebat."

Now what may seem much more incredible,
[Piod?] and several brethren quite recently witnessed this.
A priest brought to the Church a certain man named Pestitutus of Calama in the [paroccia?],
and when he pleased or when he was asked to do this by those who requested him to do so
and imitating the ‘wailing [???]’ .
[Libel] despite human voices, became insensible, and lay like as one who is dead;
so that not only had he no feeling when he was pinched and pricked,
But even when fire was doused on him he didn’t stir;
without any sense of pain from the wound; except afterwards,
but not to at the time [obnitendum??],
but it is not by realizing that he could not move the body

As if he was dead and hardly breathing  
But by hearing the words of men, as if they were speaking
from far away, like afterwards.
 

 

 

The source of the experience

Saint Augustine

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