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Observations placeholder

Seemingly Non-Toxic, but Potent Deleriogen Amanita muscaria by 3MX

Identifier

020123

Type of Spiritual Experience

Vision
Hallucination

Number of hallucinations: 1

Background

A description of the experience

Seemingly Non-Toxic, but Potent Deleriogen

Amanita muscaria

by 3MX

Citation:   3MX. "Seemingly Non-Toxic, but Potent Deleriogen: An Experience with Amanita muscaria (ID 13888)". Erowid.org. Apr 15, 2002. erowid.org/exp/13888

 

 

DOSE:

9.0 g

oral

Amanitas - A. muscaria

(dried)

 

BODY WEIGHT:

135 lb


First off, I apologize for not being able to provide a detailed, step-by-step, timed account of my experience, as my memory of the time is hazy and the many notes I scribbled on little post-its are quite unintelligible, testimony to fly agaric's mind-scrambling power.

FYI, I've had experience with caffeine, alcohol, MJ, ephedrine, yohimbine, kava, valerian, wormwood, tobacco, DXM, salvia, and blue lotus. Amanita was unlike any of the above, though I noticed limited similarities w/ DXM and ephedrine; in fact, this shroom gave me the most powerful experience yet!

The amanita was dried, A-grade from WA state, ordered from a web-based seller. I consumed a bright red-skinned, bread-plate sized cap and a few smaller fragments, which I estimated to be 8 to 10 grams out of the 14g package; I ate no stems. The shroom was easy to take down, as it tasted like chicken, was soft, and [surprisingly] produced no physical discomfort whatsoever (I wish it did, so I wouldn't have eaten so much :-P). [NOTE: if you eat amanita and feel no discomfort or initial effects, resist the urge to eat more! People aren't kidding when they tell you to start small!]

I ate the amanita around 12:30 PM in my college dorm, having finished the day's classes, feeling 'ok' besides having minor drainage due to a receding cold, and under the influence of caffeine and nicotine alone. I had eaten a small meal around 10:30 AM. The first, brief* (see below) phase of effects began between 1:00-1:30, abruptly changed thereafter and gradually strengthened until it peaked around 4:45, then plateaued until around 6:15, gradually fading-out thereafter. I was sensible enough to leave the dorm at 8:00 to eat with friends, though mild after-effects [weird-head feeling] were still around when I got to bed at ~1:00 AM. [NOTE: do not eat amanita if you have responsibilities to attend to, which I didn't]

(Effects below in rough, chronological order of appearance)

PHASE ONE:
*persistent after-images, such as those created by staring at the computer screen and quickly looking away.

*active, noticeable hypnagogia (I see these naturally, high 'activity' is a sign of sedative or hallucinogen presence for me)

*stared-at objects seemed to shift around slightly

*pronounced sedation, which made me attempt to take a nap

*ceiling seemed to shift up slowly, then down slowly (double-image over actual) as I stared at it

PHASE TWO:
*pronounced wakefulness, stimulation (this foiled my attempt to nap w/in 10 minutes of lying down)

*basic, fever-class delirium (irrational thought which I recognized as being wrong, which I kept thinking anyways)

*powerful, full-body analgesia. I felt almost no pain, some nerve-desensitization. This property makes me buy the berserker-amanita theory. I walked about VERY carefully.

*racing, 'pulsing-fragmentary' mental process. My mind seemed to have sped up greatly, going in series of three rapid and repeating 'pulses,' split-second appearances of geometric, nonsense images in my 'mind's eye' that were not actually seen; each pulse was accompanied by an undiscribeable change in head-feeling.

*delirium like never before, which gave me the impression that I had 'two minds,' a delerious one and a sane one, which tried to push-around the delerious one in order to be productive and keep a cool demeanor (my 'inner sitter'). I managed to confine myself to the dorm, bathroom, and a friend's room, though I almost walked into the wrong rooms twice.

*lack of attention-span and inability to write coherently. Talking was easy, though I was occasionally at loss for words and I had difficulty relating ideas to words around the peak. Most basic activities required concentration.

*3-pulse 'inner beat' shortened to slower 2-pulse scheme. former images replaced by a field of hypnagogic 'swirlies' that shifted from swirling left to right, then back, with each pulse (~1 second).

*exceptionally good physical state, w/o feelings of hunger, thirst, fatigue, nausea, aching, or congestion. I did not notice pronounced salivation or perspiration. I drank water frequently out of precaution. 'bathroom' stimuli muffled, though apparent and answered with a BR trip consistently. [body good, mind icky]

*some emotional 'distancing'/'disassociation', feeling of being 'out there.' However, I still retained some humor and could socialize fine. Watching a friend play computer games kept my attention occupied for awhile. Lack of engaging, external stimuli in my dorm led to periods of boredom during which 4 minutes seemed like 20.
LAST ENTHUSIASTIC THOUGHT: 'this is what DXM should be!'

PEAK AND DECLINE:
*feeling that world was spinning vertically; did not make me dizzy or nausous.

*marked speed-up of 2-step 'inner beats'

*feeling of pulsing, inner-energy (no tachyardia)

*increased mental-skill debilitation (as above)

*strong delirium persisted, though distinct, nutty thoughts not evident (as they were for a couple hours prior). Briefly 'vegatized' me to the point of dumbly staring at the computer screen and doing nothing.

*pronounced introspection of the petty sort (noting how nutty I was and prodding myself to do something)

*continual desire for experience to end

*gradual return of attention-span, writing ability

*gradual decline of body-effects; pain/fatigue back

*quick disappearance of delerial images

*gradual return to normal mind-set, head-feeling.

*slept ok, felt 'ordinary' the next day

In summary, I underestimated the shroom's potency and got a weird, mildly-disturbing trip of the type I'll try to avoid in the future. Thankfully, the bodily ills that afflict many agaric-eaters did not affect me. I plan to smoke agaric in the future, and maybe eat smaller quantities. Tales of this shroom being deadly are horsesh*t, but it must be treated with utmost respect.

 

The source of the experience

EROWID

Concepts, symbols and science items

Concepts

Symbols

Science Items

Hypnagogia

Activities and commonsteps

Activities

Overloads

Amanita muscaria

Suppressions

Nicotine

Commonsteps

Hypnagogia

References